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Sunday, September 09, 2007

Pride Vs Jackals: Game 5

This is it. Whoever wins this game goes to the championship to face YOUR North Shore Spirit.
It's game 5 of the Can-Am League Semi-finals: the Nashua Pride Vs The New Jersey Jackals!
I'll try to update the score every now and then......as this game is a game of interest.

I perosnally woud like to face Nashua.....and would also like to go up there for a playoff game on Wednesday (since I have school tuesday night)......


5:34 PM: In the bottom of the 2nd it's 2-0 Nashua.
GO PRIDE! ^_^
5:41 PM: Apparently the Jackals scraped together 3 hits in the 2nd,matching the Pride's output......but couldn't do anything with them! =] Still 2-0 Pride as they go to the 3rd.
6:21 PM: Bottom of the 4th.......The Pride added two more in the top of the 4th to make it 4-0 Pride! The Jackals have 2 hits while the Pride have 7.
6:43 PM: Still 4-0 Pride,heading into the 6th
7:17 PM: After 7 it's still 4-0 Pride. The Pride have 8 hit while the Jackals have half that. Neither team has pulled a Sussex (Error).
7:44 PM: It's still 4-0 Pride going into the Top of the 9th! GO PRIDE!!!! =]
7:57 PM: FINAL SCORE: PRIDE 4, JACKALS 0

Ok,the playoff fianls are now set!
It's the Nashua Pride Vs YOUR North Shore Spirit.

The fianls begin this Tuesday in Nashua where games 1 and 2 will be played.
Game 3 and any others,if needed,will be played here in Lynn at good ol' Fraser field starting Thursday!

LET'S GO SPIRIT!!!!

PS: We should definitly plan a road trip to Nashua....for Wednesday if possible ( cause i got classes Tuesday) :-p

Friday, August 31, 2007

Video Of Crazy End To Last Night's Game Vs NJ

Here's a video of the play to end last night's game. I suggest letting it load all the way THEN watch it.

It's not the best video ever,and I decided to follow the batter while he ran around the bases for once (STUPID! x_x).....so this sin't as good as I thought it would be in helping us decide.....but it still does the trick ;]




PS: HAPPY 700TH POST! ^_^

Wednesday, August 29, 2007

1 down...

I told you that this team was unstoppable with Vic..... and they just completed the first step of my undefeated prediction with a walkoff, 7-5 win tonight as Vic Davilla smashed a homer to end the game.

The Spirit were down 5-4 going into the home half of the 9th after more heroics by Sandy Madera - but Weed and Roche reached to set up Davilla's game winner.

There are now 5 games to go in the regular season and the magic # to finish ahead of NJ is 1.

Spirit Lose Heartbreaker; More Nails Lost

The blog's regular conntributor Joe is having trouble getting home at the moment...but is on his way home after a heartbreaking 9-6 loss against the Jackals of the Sewer State. He asked me to write up the report tonight.....but I'd like to get some sleep so I'm gonna cheat and put up the recap from the official North Shore Spirit website and add a few side-thoughts:

By Reid Cargan,SPIRIT Baseball Writer
LYNN,MA (SV)

"Sandy Madera hit a grand slam off Derek Drage to cap off a seven run ninth inning as the Jackals storm back from four runs down to shock the Spirit 9-6 Tuesday night at Fraser field in game one of their series.

It was a battle of the lefties for the first four innings as Luis Arroyo and Josh Brey held their counterparts scoreless. Then with two outs in the top of the fifth, Joe Mihalics singles and promptly stole second. Clay Kuklick hit what appeared to be the final out, but the fly ball tipped of Mike Torres’ glove and dropped in allowing Mihalics to score. New Jersey took further advantage of the error by scoring another run in the frame on a Francisco Leandro base hit to up the score to 2-0.

The Spirit struck for five in the sixth inning to overtake the Jackals. Mike Torres and Luis Lopez both with 2 RBI’s in the frame on a single and double respectively. Jerson Perez chipped in an RBI single as well that scored Lopez from second. The Spirit bullpen cruised through the seventh and eighth innings before Donny Langdon and Jamie Baker imploded in the ninth inning, all culminating in the Madera slam. New Jersey banged out five hits with two walks in the frame. The Jackals gave the Spirit a taste of their own medicine after the Spirit had strung together a few come from behind victories as of late.

Kyle George (2-3) picks up the win in relief, with newcomer Tom Atlee picking up his first save as a member of the Jackals. Drage takes the loss, moving his record to 3-4 on the season.

The two teams lock up again Wednesday night at 7:05. Gary Galvez will oppose Kevin Ool."



NOW...for my mini-rant and thoughts (I know Joe would've loved to do this in the main post XD):
First off may I start by askign the following questions.....Why can;t we seem to win at home,especially latye in the season? AND Why do we always have closer problems late in the season? NOW-we move on....

**Luis Arroyo did phneominal in his outing. His pitching line was 6 innings pitched with 4 hits and 2 un-earned runs (an E7) while stiking out 1 and walking 2.
** I liked the idea of,after Arroyo left,trying to use one pitcher per inning.....worked to a point ;]
** Fraser Field is porbably the only place that can go from active in the 6th to being a carbon copy of Pine Grove Cemetary when sound is NEEDED!!!! UGH!
** I hate how an usher told us to quiet down and then said "It';s only the Spirit" when we were cheering in the 9th....LIKE REAL FANS DO!
** Carl Schaefer is sick!!! He has some VERY good stuff. Maybe we should've kept him in a little later...
** Derek Gange shouldn't have gone in THAT late in the game (the 9th inning).....he's been bad lately,and doing that was suicide. Next time put him in earlier......this isn't helping him or the team at this point.
** Walking Fransisco Leandro (who?) to get to Sandy Madera (top league hitter) was a HORRIBLE discission! ALL of us agreed.....cause then what happened? BOOM! Grand Salami....just like Joe predicted and everyone thought might happpen.
** Why leave in Drage after doign badly and then giving up a grand slam?! Vic....stop being like JK,it's giving us heart problems.
** Vic.......make Carl Schaefer the closer--NOW! ^_^

ALSO: The press box is amazing....thank you guys for the Can-Am updates (they're important now) and thanks Pat for the enthusiastic Josue Lopez intro,you sound remotely like a Spanish soccer announcer subsituting Josue for GOOOOOOAAAALLLL!!!!! XD Can we do that every night? ;-]



NOW.....comment away!

PS: The Utica region of "Who's Now" will be forthcoming (AKA: This week)

Thursday, August 23, 2007

All streaks come to an end

The Jackals downed the Spirit 6-2 tonight to salvage game 4 in Little Falls.

Gary Galvez actually did pretty well overall - he got roughed up for 3 in the 2nd and 3 in the 3rd, but he settled down after that to get through seven innings.

Wilton Veras had the key blow, a 3-run homer in the 3rd to really put it out of reach.

Jackals' starter Kevin Ool was a tough nut to crack tonight, giving up 2 runs on 8 innings. The Spirit didn't get to him until the 7th, when they put up 2 runs -- but a GIDP by Joe Hough with the bases loaded ended the rally.

Old friend Kevin Fitzgerald pitched a scoreless 9th to hold down the lead.

The Spirit end their road slate with a 28-13 record away from Fraser Field. They also wound up splitting the season series with New Jersey, 4-4.

Back to Fraser tomorrow to start the regular season-ending homestand.

Out of Town:

New Haven lost - meaning the magic # to finish ahead of them is 1.

Brockton and Quebec are locked up in an 8-8 tie in the top of the 7th - LET'S GO ROX!

If Brockton gets the victory, the Spirit can clinch a playoff spot with a win at home tomorrow.

UPDATE: BROCKTON TAKES THE LEAD!!! 11-8, a 3 run double for McGee. Brockton has 17 hits in the game.

UPDATE 2
: Brockton wins! Magic# 1

Time to sweep



Game 4 in New Jersey is under way.

It's Gary Galvez vs. Kevin Ool. Yes, "OOL."

It's conceivable that we clinch a playoff spot tonight: if we win, and Quebec AND New Haven both lose, then we're in.

I'll be around later in the game, but for now, follow along with all the scores here.

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

Doubleheader in NJ

12:59 AM - Sorry about disappearing...sometimes life beckons. The Spirit went on to romp at the end of game 2 and win 9-2.... hooray for doubleheader sweeps.

The Spirit got a pair of complete games tonight - one from Luis Arroyo and one from Bic - and the bullpen is now well-rested going into tomorrow night's game, when the Spirit will be looking to sweep.

North Shore has won 5 in a row and is now 2 wins away from clinching a playoff berth with 11 games to go.

The Spirit have also improved their record to a RIDICULOUS 28-12 on the road.


Scoreboard

GAME 1

Team1234567

RHE
2
0
0
1
0
0
1


4
7
0
NJJ
0
3
0
0
0
0
0


3
8
0
FINAL - 4-3 Spirit

GAME 2

Team1234567

RHE
0
1
0
1
1
0
6


980
NJJ
0
2
0
0
0
0
0


2
9
3


Live Out of Town Scores

Game Notes

6 PM
- We've been delayed for about two hours, but it appears that game 1 will be starting in about 30-45 minutes.

6:05 PM -

Game 1 Lineups:

Spirit

Weed-cf
Roche-2b
Torres-lf
LLopez-1b
Teilon-3b
Perez-ss
Trezza-c
JLopez-dh
Welch-rf

Ryan Bicondoa-sp

Jackals

Smithlin-cf
Leandro-rf
Madera-c
Veras-3b
Rodriguez-1b
Reyes-ss
Thigpen-lf
Mihalics-2b
Kuklick-dh

John Kelly-sp (we meet again)

6:10 PM - The Spirit meet John Kelly again tonight... he is making his first start back with the Jackals. In game two, Luis Arroyo will pitch for the Spirit against Josh Brey. The Jackals are out on the field warming up and we should be playing soon. It's currently 64 and cloudy in Little Falls and it looks like the rain is gone.

6:37 PM - We're underway. This could be a long night.

-Game One-

6:44 PM
- With 2 outs in the top of the 1st, Luis Lopez blasts a 2-run home run, scoring Mike Torres and giving North Shore an early 2-0 lead off of John Kelly.

7:09 PM - Guillermo Reyes drills a 2RBI double to tie the score at 2 in the bottom of the 2nd.

7:17 PM - Zach Smithlin lines an RBI single off of Bicondoa's leg; Bic is OK, but Reyes scores and the Jackals have taken a 3-2 lead here in what has been a big bottom of the 2nd. NJ has runners on 1st and 2nd with 2 out.

7:39 PM - TEILON!!! Nilson Teilon hits a solo home run in the top of the 4th to tie the ballgame at 3.

7:53 PM - Allen Mottram, who, for the record, is not even playing in this game, has been ejected for arguing a call. The Spirit bench is down to 2 for the remainder of game 1.

8:10 PM - We head to the 6th: it's a two-inning game now.

8:34 PM
- They've DONE IT AGAIN - TREZZA with a solo homer in the top of the 7th off of Kelly makes it 4-3 Spirit!!!!!!

8:50 PM - Bic sets 'em down 1-2-3 --- a complete game, and an exciting win.

-Game Two-

9:26 PM
- Luis Arroyo is taking his warmup tosses - it's just about time for game two.

9:47 PM - Another dinger for Teilon! One-nil in the top of the 2nd.

9:59 PM - Rodriguez doubles home Veras in the bottom of the 2nd to tie the ballgame at 1.

10:03 PM - Mihalics with a 'Baltimore chop' RBI single to make it 2-1, in what has been a long bottom of the 2nd.

12:59 AM - Sorry about disappearing...sometimes life beckons. The Spirit went on to romp at the end of game 2 and win 9-2.... hooray for doubleheader sweeps.

The Spirit got a pair of complete games tonight - one from Luis Arroyo and one from Bic - and the bullpen is now well-rested going into tomorrow night's game, when the Spirit will be looking to sweep.

North Shore has won 5 in a row and is now 2 wins away from clinching a playoff berth with 11 games to go.

The Spirit are also a RIDICULOUS 28-12 on the road.

Tuesday, August 21, 2007

13 to go: Spirit @ Jackals, 8/21

Game 2!

Alert: GAME CALLED - RAIN. DOUBLEHEADER, 4:05 PM TOMORROW.

Scoreboard
GAME POSTPONED DUE TO RAIN












DOUBLEHEADER











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4:05 PM TOMORROW











0

OUT OF TOWN LIVE CAN-AM SCORES

Tonight's Pitching Matchups

TODAY'S GAMES
ATC @ WOR
MONTE MANSFIELD (6-7) VS JUNIOR GUERRERO (6-4)
NHC @ SUS
ROLANDO VALLES (4-5) VS MATTHEW HIRSH (0-4)
ROX @ QUE
CHRIS MARTIN (0-1) VS TJ STANTON (3-7)
NSS @ NJJ
RYAN BICONDOA (9-2) VS TBA
NSH @ GRY
AKIRA OKAMOTO (7-2) VS FONTELLA JONES (4-3)

Standings - 2nd Half

W L PCT GB

NORTH SHORE 24 10 .706


ATLANTIC CITY 21 12 .636 2.5

NEW HAVEN COUNTY 19 14 .576 4.5

NASHUA 17 17 .500 7.0

GRAYS 17 17 .500 7.0

BROCKTON 17 17 .500 7.0

*NEW JERSEY 15 19 .441 9.0

WORCESTER 14 20 .412 10.0

QUEBEC 13 21 .382 11.0

SUSSEX 12 22 .353 12.0


Full SeasonN
W L PCT GB
North Shore Spirit 49 31 .613 --
*New Jersey Jackals 46 34 .575 3.0
Nashua Pride 44 36 .550 5.0
Atlantic City Surf 43 36 .544 5.5
New Haven County Cutters 40 40 .500 9.0
Quebec Capitales 40 41 .494 9.5
Worcester Tornadoes 38 43 .469 11.5
Brockton Rox 37 43 .463 12.0
Grays 37 44 .457 12.5
Sussex Skyhawks 27 53 .338 22.0

Monday, August 20, 2007

"Get this man his postgame spread!"

On a night when the man who hit the biggest home run in Spirit history returned to the fold, Josue Lopez picked up a big, clutch homer of his own, sending a two-run blast deep into the night in the 9th to give the Spirit a 6-4 victory over the New Jersey Jackals.

Derek Drage picked up another heart-attack save, putting on the first two men before escaping the jam with the help of a huge strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play when Dustin Yount whiffed. He got Joe Mihalics to pop out to (who else?) Nilson Teilon to end game 1 of a 4-game set that could very well be a preview of the championship series in a few weeks.

Joey Siak got the start for the Spirit. He pitched five decent innings, giving up three runs, and earned a no-decision.

The Spirit gave Joey an early lead off of Isaak Pavlik, putting up a 3-spot in the 2nd inning. Teilon (woo!) walked and came around to score on an RBI groundout by Josue Lopez. After Jerson Perez reached, John Welch hit his 3rd home run in the last 5 games, increasing the lead to 3-0.

With the score 3-1 in the 4th, Josue Lopez got another RBI on a fielder's choice - his 2nd RBI of the night.

From there, the Jackals began to claw back. They chased Joey Siak by putting a pair of runs up in the bottom of the 5th when Clay Kuklick got an RBI triple and Joe Mihalics brought him home with a single to center.

Brandon Martin came in to pitch the 6th and didn't get off to the best start, giving up an RBI double to Wilton Veras to tie the game. He was aided by some poor baserunning, though, as Veras ran into the second out of the inning trying to stretch his hit into a triple. The next man popped up to end the inning.

Martin settled down after that, keeping the Jackals quiet through the 7th and 8th and setting the stage for Josue Lopez's blast off of losing pitcher (and former Elmira legend) Kyle George in the 9th.

W) Martin
L) George
SV) Drage

...........

The Spirit have signed pitcher Luis Arroyo, who made the All-Star team in the United League this year pitching for the Laredo Broncos.
18 starts
8-4
3.55 ERA
4 CG
124.1 IP
126 H
58 R/49 ER
128 K/63 BB
.259 avg against

Not bad at all, but who knows how these numbers translate.

He has 3 years of experience in the Atlantic League from 2002-2004.

.........................

I'll be tracking the big 'magic numbers' on the left-hand side of the blog.

14 to go: Spirit @ Jackals, 8/20

For old time's sake, let's do a game thread, with all postings here in comments instead of going to the chat room.

Scoreboard
FINAL - Spirit 6, Jackals 4
Team123456789RHE
0
3
0
1
0
0
0
0
2
6
9
0
NJJ
0
0
1
0
2
1
0
0
0
4
7
1

Other games impacting the playoff race:

Brockton Rox 6 @ Quebec Capitales 3, 8th
Atlantic City Surf 6 @ Worcester Tornadoes 6, 8th
New Haven County Cutters 1 @ Sussex Skyhawks 2, 8th

Boston Red Sox 6 @ Tampa Bay Devil Rays 0, FINAL
New York Yankees @ Anaheim Angels, 10:05 PM

Game Notes:

6:30 PM>
According to the league site, the starters are: DENNIS ROBINSON (4-4) VS ISAAC PAVLIK (7-5).
But if D-Rob really is gone, someone else will be starting. Stay tuned.

Tonight's Pitching Matchups
ATLANTIC CITY AT WORCESTER J.C. HUGUET (6-5) VS ALEX PENA (4-5)
NEW HAVEN COUNTY AT SUSSEX ROLANDO VALLES (4-5) VS JAMIE MERCHANT (2-1)
BROCKTON AT QUEBEC BRYAN MORSE (2-3) VS MICHEL SIMARD (8-7)
NORTH SHORE AT NEW JERSEY DENNIS ROBINSON (4-4) VS ISAAC PAVLIK (7-5)
NASHUA AT GRAYS HIDEKI NAGASAKA (8-1) VS ELLIOTT SHAW (6-7)

OK, let's go.

7 PM>
AHH Nilson Teilon is in the lineup!!! And the Spirit have added a pitcher, Luis Arroyo, who has 3 years of Atlantic League experience and was a United League all star this year. He'll be pitching Wednesday.

And so it goes...

It's crunch time. Two big ballgames tonight, one for the Spirit in Little Falls and another for that Boston team down in Tampa Bay.

I'm feeling pretty confident about both teams' chances to make the playoffs, but even the most optimistic fan has to at least have some doubt and fear at this point.

The Spirit have an easier road than the Red Sox do: a record of 7-7 in these last 14 games gets us in to the playoffs, regardless of what mayhem unfolds behind us. But the real prize here is the 2nd half title and getting those last 3 games at home, and the lead there is a tenuous 2.5 over Atlantic City. Also in play is the #1 overall record, for which the Spirit have a 2 game lead on the Jackals.

The Jackals are a sleeping giant, struggling in the 2nd half since dominating the first half, but I fully expect them to wake up before the postseason starts. That wakeup call seems to have already started, as the Jackals are 4-1 in their last 5 games. And with their acquisition of ace pitcher John Kelly, don't be surprised to see NJ in the championship series.

Not-so-breaking news:

from northshorespirit.com----

Saturday, August 18, 2007

Lynn, MA – The North Shore Spirit has announced the signing of infielder/outfielder Nilson Teilon, reuniting the player with the team he played for in 2004.

Teilon has just finished an MVP season for Edinburg of the United League. In his best professional season to date, the righty leads the United League in batting average (.361), RBI’s (90), and doubles (30). He places second in home runs (20) and stolen bases (15).

In his lone season with the Spirit in 2004, Teilon saw the majority of his playing time at third base, while hitting a very respectable .305 with 11 home runs and 55 RBI’s. His 111 hits that season ranked fifth on the Spirit’s all-time single season record list.

Teilon was signed by the Chicago White Sox as an undrafted free agent in 1998. He has also spent time in the Arizona Diamondbacks farm system.



I AM PUMPED!!!!!!!!! now we just need another pitcher.

Rumors And Tranactions And Pitchers......Oh My

An anonymous poster has left a comment saying that Dennis Robinson has left the team "in order to go to school". This makes sense since school starts up in Septemeber.....but this is just a rumor. still,if true this woud be a big blow to the Spirit as we would again be down a starter and have one of our better pitchers (save a few games) gone.

Out of curiousity I went to the Can-Am site & was looking at the transaction wire to check this out and didn't see him gone. However two pieces of activitity caught my eye.....

North Shore: Released OF Anton French.
This took them long enough to post up. He's been gone since Friday,according to reports. this realy only caught my eye cause it said "North Shore" in the front....the next one caught my eye for a few reasons.....

Brockton: Traded RHP John Kelly to New Jersey in exchange for future considerations and two players to be named later.
Why would brockton trade John Kelly,the best pitcher in the league (behind Chris Farley XD), to New Jersey for 2 players to be named later and future considerations? I can undertsand that New Jersey needs him to keep in the hunt for the overall best record,but Brockton REALLY needs good pitching to help keep them in the playoff race. Brockton may get a good deal out of this in the end,but right now I don't know if it was the right move.....at least if they want to get into the playoffs.

This trade really confuses me....any thoughts?

ALSO: Don't forget to vote in the new round of "Who's Now" which is right below this post! ^_^

Tuesday, June 05, 2007

It looks like it might be a long year.

It's not time to push the panic button just yet. But it was certainly a troubling night at Fraser Field as a pair of 8-4 losses to the New Jersey Jackals dropped the Spirit to 0-5 at home and 5-6 overall.

It was an all around team failure: the pitchers were getting hit hard, the offense could not come up with timely hits, the defense was abysmal, and the bullpen couldn't keep the Spirit in what became a close game 2.

Bryan Morse wasn't terrible in game 1, but he wasn't great, either- and the combination of his spottiness and absolute awful infield defense behind him led to a rough outing. The Jackals scored 5 in the first as Wilton Veras got an RBI single on a poor play by shortstop Gilbert Gil, Alex Frazier lined a 2RBI double to left, and Joe Mihalics picked up a 2RBI single to right to make it ugly, early.

The Jackals ultimately scored 7 off of Bryan Morse and the Spirit defense was charged with three errors, although in reality there should have been a minimum of six errors charged to the Spirit including three by Mike "Matador" Torres, who had an awful night at the hot corner.

Home runs by Darren Blakely and Carlos Rodriguez made the score respectable, but in the end the Spirit fell 8-4.

In game 2, Ryan Bicondoa made his return but fared no better than Morse -- he had poor control and still more poor defense behind him as he was torched for 4 runs in 2 1/3 innings.

Shawn McNamara came in and settled the game down, and the Spirit began to claw their way back. In the 3rd, Rob Fischer's RBI double to left scored Gil Gil and made it 4-1. BJ Weed then laced an RBI triple to right centerfield to make it 4-2, and Darren Blakely brought home the 3rd Spirit run on a sacrifice fly.

McNamara struck out the side in the top of the 4th and the Spirit picked up the tying run in the bottom half of the inning. Brad Rea led off with a single and wavs moved to 2nd on a sac bunt by Wally Rosa. Gil brought him home with an RBI double to tie the score.

The Jackals got the lead right back in the 5th, however, as Clyde Williams led off with a solo homer to right off of McNamara. In the 6th, the Jackals loaded the bases off of McNamara who was lifted in favor of Derek Drage. Drage couldn't come through, giving up a 2RBI single to Wilton Veras to make it 7-4.

New Jersey added another in the 7th off of Drage to make it 8-4, which would be the final score.

I'm not worried about Morse and Bic, they will ultimately be fine. But I AM concerned about the infield defense. It's putrid. Brad Rea is a statue at first -- he has to have Vic thinking about pulling out the fielder's glove. And Torres has been Jeff Brooks-esque at 3rd base. The makeshift middle infield of Gary Roche and Gil Gil were spotty but at times solid -- Perez was out with some sort of injury that wasn't announced (Thanks Spirit PR Staff!). I think they will really miss Cordova's presence in the infield. The lineup, not so much -- Gil seemsm good. But in the field... ouch.

Also troubling is the poor timely hitting. The Spirit put together a good inning in the 3rd inning of game 2, but in the first game, a few blasts were the only offense the Spirit could muster. It's concerning to say the least.

It's too early to give up the ship, but at this point it looks like we are not one of the elite teams in the league. Not yet, anyway.

Players of the Game:
Game 1: Carlos Rodriguez
Game 2: B.J. Weed

Awful PA Announcer (TM) Moment of the Night:
Shawn McNamara came in to pitch in the 4th inning. The PA announcer let us know this by saying: "Please welcome to the mound, Shawn McNamara."

Also, (I know, this is 2 moments, I cheated) "In other Can-Am action, Nashua beated Atlantic City..."

Oh, there were three: "Can he catch THREE in a row with the fishing net? He DOEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"--- I can't really accurately describe his hilariously bad voice tone here, but it reminded me a lot of this guy:



Basically, it was said in a tone more appropriate for like, the surrender of the Nazis.